The Donald told me he was going to build a wall between Mexico and the United States. I told him they’ve done studies and the wall would not be effective and it would be too expensive and the American people don’t want a wall.
Trump was aghast. “Every one of my friends,” he said, “wants a wall.”
“Well, that may be true, but you’re not friends with all the people in the United States, and they don’t want a wall, and Congress won’t let America pay for it.” We went back and forth like this, for a good 20 minutes: he threatened to kill me a few times. Every time he gave me a reason to build the wall, I would give him a counter reason why it wouldn’t work. I said, “You don’t live in that part of the country, anyway, do you have friends along the border?” He didn’t. I told him not to make that part of his campaign pledges.
Trump finally told me the truth, he promised the construction companies he’d done business with over the years that he would build the wall and he would hire them to do it, and they would be rich, because they could charge anything they want.
Since I lived in the New York City area I knew some of the people who had dealings with Trump over the years. What he would do is, get a loan from a bank for his building, and then tell the bank he’s not going to pay them; and construction workers didn’t get any money either. Trump just pocketed ALL the loan money minus some of the supplies to build or run the buildings. The money went into his pocket and everyone he owed money to, got screwed. This happened over and over again. Trump, himself, said he was amazed that banks were still offering to loan him money. He laughed about it. I didn’t find it funny at all, because I knew what he had been doing to people for all these years. He ruins lives. The stories of the construction workers getting nothing and going into debt, and the workers at his casinos being told they would be paid in six months, but never saw a dime. So, Trump made a lot of enemies and the construction workers have unions. (Trump got only 3% of the vote in NYC)
So now, instead of asking them to wait six months and pocketing the money, Trump told them when he got to be President he would hire them to build a wall, and it would be a very expensive wall and they would all get rich. All of the construction companies in the New York area have it in for Trump, so the wall, the promise of the wall, was keeping Trump alive, and kept those horror stories about the Donald out of the campaign.
We don’t need a wall, no one wants a wall, especially farmers along the border who are concerned about lack of light and losing part of their farmland, they don’t want a wall. I’ve been traveling for the last 11 years and spent much time in the border states, and no one wants a wall. I talked to people all the time and asked for their opinion.
As an environmentalist, I have to add, the wall would wreak havoc with the ecosystem in the area. I’m sure it would add to the pollution in the area. Migrating animals could become extinct – and on and on.
The correct solution was already decided on during the Obama Administration. I think the last country to build a wall was Germany under Hitler. The wall is not something border police want. One example is a blimp in New Mexico on the border with Palomas Mexico, that has identified many border crossers. It’s unmanned and it has surveillance cameras and zoom lenses, and whatnot, and it works like a charm. People in the area like it because about six people a year used to die in the desert in that area, and that hasn’t happened since the blimp was put into operation. There are surveillance towers now along the border. These measures have proved to work.
Trump made it clear, many times during our meeting, that he imports murderers as hitmen. Since the companies Trump chooses to build the wall, will be in cahoots with him, they will leave openings that Trump and other underworld criminals would have access to. (Keep in mind that Trump told me the only way Trump could have paid back his debts to Russian banks, was to win the presidency, because presidents have their debts paid off by the American people after they’re inaugurated. That’s why Russia had a stake in making sure Trump won.)
Lastly, Trump has made the United States unappealing for people from Mexico. Just his presence as president is keeping people from crossing the border. If Congress allows this wall as payback for Trump’s crimes and thievery, they are condoning his illegal operations. They’re enabling him. They are accomplices.